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but is it as good as a hyundai excel?
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It could possibly excel in a comparison test.
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I hope it drives better than it looks. DLO fail and Toyolex design ethos, only a mother could love.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:34 |
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*fire suit on*
I think it looks really good...
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:37 |
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I think you meant “fogged over x-ray vision glasses on” or maybe just simply “blindfold on” ;) . Other than the front and the DLO fail, I guess it is palatable. I will give it credit for a tallish greenhouse (relative to many modern cars).
I picture it parked in front of mcmansions of matching tacky design.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:39 |
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Agreed. It already looks likes its a generation out of date.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:43 |
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This stuff won’t age well, not a future classic. In terms of overstyling, Toyolex is stuck in 1958. False dynamism will only fool so many (from what I sometimes see on the road , gormless RX drivers are the type who will fall for it)
I like how some makes are starting to simplify and smooth out many designs now - maybe this brand will follow.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:43 |
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I really like the way they look. If I was 40-60 years old I’d buy one.
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Parked in front of tacky mcmansions?
Dude, that’s their core market alongside wealthy retirees.
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I’m looking forward to your completely unbiased opinion.
* Looks at your driveway*
Well, it should be an interesting read anyway.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:45 |
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I’m 24 and actually want it now. The drive to work and back is just so pleasant. My ISF hasn’t driven to work with me in a couple months because I don’t want 400+ hp and a stiff suspension when I am just trying to get home from a place I am not too fond of right now.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:46 |
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I think they have. Yes this spindle grill is dramatic, but everyone flows well.
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We’re home!
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Haha if it wasn’t good I’d tell you. My Prius review was quite scathing. I didn’t even like th e 86 that much.
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One good thing about sedans circling the drain is that at least designers are taking some chances.
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I still desire some sporty ness and a manual transmission. I think my e90 is a Perfect middle of the road car. It’s plently comfortable, but can also hustle through a roundabout
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I suppose it doesn’t have a plastichrome hockey stick or faux fender vents stuck to the side , so it has that going for it, which is nice.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:49 |
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Yeah I just get so stressed at work and then leave and deal with traffic for 25-30 minutes over 10 miles. I just want something that mindlessly and comfortably gets me home. If I had fun roads to and from or less traffic I’d probably drive the ISF more.
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But but but FWD = fail, right???
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:51 |
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You been looking?
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:51 |
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I used to be a huge FWD hater but for the purposes o f getting to work comfortably this is fine. I’d really prefer AWD or RWD but the LS500 is not quite worth 2x the ES unless you have screw you money .
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Yup - definitely an ES in that garage.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:53 |
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Indeed. I legitimately am shocked at how excellent that car is. Which variant did you get to drive?
The hybrid is damn near faultless. That is not to say it is perfect, only that I struggle to find anything glaringly wrong to point out.
Also CarPlay is fucking fantastic. And Alexa is super cool to play with. I think the Alexa integration potentially
might even be more interesting than what Apple can do with CarPlay.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:53 |
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This is a factual opinion. I think the LS wears it better, but not by much.
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Along with an RX and maybe a German CUV, especially a “coupe” model.
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This is a presser so I get it for the week. It’s a ES350 Ultra Luxury . I liked the Hybrid Avalon so I bet the hybrid of this is a dang near perfect commuter. The materials are all really nice, it’s already quiet as could be, and it doesn’t have that whale grill.
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RFD or autodoge/ overcookedsteer dot com?
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My only problem is I don’t think the LS wears it another ES350 worth/23x/$50k better haha. The LS is gorgeous but it’s hard to justify the cost unless you have stupid money.
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Oh no. Just the RX. 3rd space is filled with bikes and unused exercise equipment. A 3rd car would suggest that they actually like cars.
EDIT - it’s probably a GX, not an RX.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 09:58 |
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RFD but I may try to parlay the electric rear shade being fantastic for Rogue drivers and their permanently stuck on high beams into a paid article over at Dougtrader.
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Does the GS not still exist?
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What questions do you have about it? I teach owners how to use the Nav, buttons, etc for a Lexus dealer. I know the tech fairly well...
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Maybe the CUV sleeps outside.
Funny, that reminds me of a more subtle mcmansion on a nice street in a tony neighborhood adjacent to mine (house in the low 7 figures) . 3 car garage, all cars outside as it is full of $300 worth of yard sale rejects. For a long time it was a couple of older LS and a W124 in the driveway , now I think the W124 changed to an RX and the LSs have been updated, so they have a trio.
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yes very.
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Anything unusual about it, though? My last two cars have had that feature. Only difference between then is that the GS would retract it when you put the car in reverse, the Mercedes does not.
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Only through 2019 in the US officially.
And while a superb car, the new ES is actually that good it could replace a GS easily. Winter wheels and tires are still less than you’d spend on the difference in price between an ES and a GS. And the new Nav tech in the ES is light years ahead of the GS.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 10:03 |
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How do I get the Hud to work?
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Nah, just works really well. I’ve never had it in any other car so it’s been a fun toy. Especially with everything else on the road being tall. I had no clue what I was missing.
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I talked a littlee bit about it at the end of this article but I think it’s officially almost gone . It’s sad to see the GS go as it has always been my favorite attainable Lexus. http://www.rightfootdown.com/cars/reviews/cars-reviews/1999-lexus-gs300-vs-2018-lexus-gs300-20-years-of-progress-examined/
![]() 12/21/2018 at 10:10 |
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A tip of the cap to those people then, at least the original configuration.
There’s a house near me that has the following- almost all under car covers and wearing antique vehicle plates :
W116 - blacked out with AMG badging
* two* BMW E21 323i ( never sold here)
W124 coupe
R107
197 0s GM F body on blocks in garage
W126
And I think I’m forgetting at least one more old Mercedes.
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I suspect they’ll make the ES350 with AWD option to compensate(Not in my mind) for the loss of the GS350 AWD. I see more GS350AWDs for sale than RWD versions so we’ll see how many potential buyers switch over.
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An AWD version would be great. Highlander I had last week had amazing traction in the damp world I have lived in f or the last two weeks.
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It’s especially useful in the daytime when you have a rear facing child who hates the sun in his eyes.
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Under the air-vent to the left of the steering wheel is a button that looks like a windshield with an (!) in it; that is the HUD power button.
Once turned on, use the compass arrows on the left spoke of the steering wheel, tap the left button until you get to the settings (gear icon) category, and then scroll down until you see HUD Adjustment as an option. Tap the Enter in the center of the compass arrows to open the adjustment menu; left/right will adjust HUD brightness, up/down adjust position. Look for the 4 brackets around the corners while adjusting position. You want to see all 4 brackets clearly when adjusting, then you know you have it positioned correctly. It will stay where you adjust it, no need to “save” the HUD position.
*I may have typed all that straight from memory* #IKnowMyShit #HumblebragAsshole Lol
Feel free to email me if you have any other questions: Charlie Foxtrot Romeo Alpha Kilo Echo at Lexus of Dayton dot com
![]() 12/21/2018 at 10:34 |
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This is pretty but the Avalon is the better looking car. (IMO the Avalon is the best looking FWD sedan for sale right now.) But overall is it worth the premium over the Avalon?
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I hope they put a genuinely good torque-vectoring system and not some lame-ass slip and grip aka On Demand stuff they’ve had in several Toyota/Lexus products for many years.
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It will be in 2020, when the ES gets AWD allegedly.q
![]() 12/21/2018 at 11:43 |
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It is. I test drove one, and it was fantastic, but I think the S560 just blows it out of the water. It’s just so much more compete.
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Those sound like good people.
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When I go biking I go out of my way to ride by there, either to try to say hi or at least see what’s uncovered at the moment. The 124 ( and the 126) seems to be their primary driver, it’s green and in very nice shape. I’ve never seen the 107 uncovered - I’m assuming that’s what it is based on shape.
![]() 12/21/2018 at 19:03 |
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I always recommend ESesesesess? to acquaintances that aren’t really into cars or doing car maintenance, but are looking for something upscale. They’ve always been fantastic cars in pretty much all the metrics most people use to judge cars by.
Unfortunately, the people I’ve recommended them to have never actually followed said recommendation.
One of them has gone through a W202 (and complained about high repair costs) , an E46 (and complained about frequent and expensive repairs and various trim and accessory failures ), and a Genesis Sedan (now complaining about high fuel costs). He’s terrible at staying on top of maintenance, and, honestly, an ES would do everything he keeps buying other cars to do, better.
![]() 12/22/2018 at 00:24 |
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I hope those are good car covers - rot can set in even when under a cover.
I can’t think of any fanboy hoarders like that in my area, but I do know of a house with maybe half a dozen 80s-90s BMWs hanging around, and another with a driveway containing 2 124s and a 201.
![]() 12/22/2018 at 09:41 |
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True- the cars all seem to be fairly nice, but driver quality, other than the F body which is in pieces.
I imagine these people know what they’re doing - I hope!
![]() 12/22/2018 at 12:00 |
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The BMWs seem to shuffle around, so they must be running. The guy with the old MBs appears to keep them all as DDs - I have even seen the hoods up at various times, likely for DIY servicing.